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fake pinarello pista or NOT fake pinarello pista...

hey everybody. ive sold my pinarello pista frame on ebay about 5 month ago. this week the seller contacts me and said that the frame is fake, cause there are no panthos on the frame itself (not even the special pinarello bird). i still believe its a real pinarello, cause fork is panthographed. pictures of the bike are still on my profile.

perhaps someone can help.
September 9, 2011 11:47 AM
From: Germany
201 posts
35 bikes
Does the guy want a refund?
September 9, 2011 06:00 PM
he wants to send me the frame back and his money back....
September 9, 2011 07:03 PM
From: Germany
201 posts
35 bikes
Where exactly is he expecting pantographed markings? I commonly see them on the on top of the seatstays, though there are plenty of Pinarellos I've seen without them.
September 9, 2011 08:43 PM
From: Seattle, WA
101 posts
23 bikes
well. the problem is the frame doesnt have any panthos. i personally think the dropouts look a lot like the onces pinarello used, but well...
September 11, 2011 11:08 AM
From: Germany
201 posts
35 bikes
I've seen them near the seatstays :/ Do you think its a fake frame? How long did you own it?
September 18, 2011 05:41 AM
well..about 3 month. bought it from an old guy who rode it on the track. the builded parts were in great condition so its hard to believe its a fake frame.
September 19, 2011 09:58 AM
From: Germany
201 posts
35 bikes
i´ve seen some pina frames like yours without the stamps.
i guess it´s an original PINA frame, no fake.
on the other hand i would say if he bought it about 5 months ago it´s a bit to late to bring it right back to you?! isn´t it?
September 20, 2011 06:23 AM
From: essen/ germany
8 posts
8 bikes
Also, he had pictures during the sale and could have asked questions about the "pantoing" before making the purchase. I would say the guy is SOL.
September 26, 2011 02:40 PM
From: Colorado
6 posts
6 bikes
eBay only allow no longer than a week or a month for a person to get their money back. He brought it. He keeps it. He could be getting over on you by sending you a fake frame back. If he tries to send you to court or anything. You need to check all the eBay rules of selling/buying a item.
October 1, 2011 12:08 AM
From: Clinton Hills, Brooklyn
223 posts
23 bikes
thanks for the feedback, guys...still dont know what i will do. this thing sucks...:-)
October 1, 2011 12:18 PM
From: Germany
201 posts
35 bikes
go with the ebay rules my dude. 5 months is way too long

he looked at it as soon as he got it and waited this long?
September 14, 2013 07:06 AM
From: Texarkana/Arkadelphia, AR
127 posts
3 bikes
This topic is about 2 years old. Gee whiz.
September 14, 2013 07:16 AM
From: Las Vegas, NV
34 posts
4 bikes
Its way to long for refund you sold a real pinarello frame he should have checked the pictures
September 15, 2013 09:53 AM

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